Andrew Gwynne, the Labour Party’s shadow secretary for communities and local government, was critical of the Government’s handling of social care.
Speaking on Pienaar’s Politics, the host claimed that the Labour shadow secretary had managed to criticise the government without having any solution to implement if Labour were in power.
Pienaar added that neither Labour or the Conservatives had plans for “radical reform” for social services, but simply called for more money to be put into the system.
Mr Gwynne said: “That is something that we have said that we will sit down, we will discuss, we will debate.
“There is lots of work already being done on this. We don’t need to re-invent the wheel.
“But fundamentally what we have got to get a properly integrated health and care system and that is why we have said that we would create the National Health and Care Service because the two cannot be separated.”
The host cut off the Labour politician insisting that Mr Gwynne had not presented any new ideas that the party would initiate.
He said: “Arguably so far it has really just been about criticising what the Government has been doing, rather than coming up with any kind of approach to a new system.”
The Labour politician insisted that he was presenting a new strategy that the party would follow if they were in power.
He replied: “I am giving you a positive example here, by integrating properly health and social care. You can start to tackle some of the problems that we are now seeing in the NHS during this winter crisis.
“We have got to get that right. We have got to make absolutely sure that those services at the community level are there available for the elderly and vulnerable people, preventing them from having to go into hospital, which isn’t just costly it is actually quite distressing for a lot of elderly people.
“Once they are stuck in the hospital system, it is often difficult to get them out of that.”
This week the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt was forced to apologise after 55,000 non-urgent surgeries were postponed to February.
Mr Hunt told Sky News: “We recognise that it is better if you are unfortunately going to have to cancel or postpone some operations, to do it in a planned way.
“So that’s why this year we’ve decided to take this decision, or this independent panel has decided to take this decision.
“And that I think in the end is better for people – although if you are someone whose operation has…